PAC-12 Football – Thunder And Lightning In The Herm Edwards Era

For more than two years, Arizona State administrators have told us that the hiring of Herm Edwards and the installation of an NFL-style program will not only work, but it will change college football.  Some even doubled-down and tripled-down and whatever comes after that. 

Like desert storms that are common in Tempe, thunder makes all of the noise, but it’s lightning that does all of the work.  Without lightning, nothing actually changes.

Our quest today is to see if the Tempe tempest has just been a lot of noise or if there have actually been any bolts of progress.

Wins vs. losses:

In his two seasons at Arizona State, Edwards has won 15 games.  In the two seasons before, the Sun Devils won 11. Although that hardly qualifies as lightning, it doesn’t miss by much when we note that eight wins last season is more than any ASU team since 2014 and it was accomplished with true freshman quarterback Jayden Daniels.


In Herm’s first season in Tempe, we heard the noise of sports analysts who raved that Edwards had reduced the defensive points-per-game by seven.  Yet, with a little digging, we can see that the year before he arrived, ASU’s defense had also dropped seven points from the year before. In 2019, it dropped again but by only three points.

Forced into a change of defensive coordinators, Edwards hired Tony White from San Diego State to continue ASU’s 3-3-5 scheme. But White left after a few weeks and Edwards decided to elevate two position coaches to co-coordinators.

With all of the changes, Edwards had four defensive coordinators in less than three months.

The new guys are an odd pair because one is Marvin Lewis, longtime head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, and the other is Antonio Pierce, a high school head coach with no head coaching or coordinating experience at the college level. Together, they abandoned the 3-3-5 and installed a 4-3 during Spring drills.

Switching to 4-3 might not be a bad thing since Edwards developed a reputation in the NFL as somewhat of a maestro of the 4-3, Cover 2, but it seemed to come suddenly and it caught local experts by surprise.


To think we should look for lightning in the Arizona State offense is nearly laughable.  The Sun Devils ranked 96th in the nation for producing points (24.8), 120th for rushing ypc (3.5), and 95th for total offense (372.1).

Clearly, ASU’s 2019 offense atrophied under Edwards but we also need to acknowledge that he had a great number of injuries and it was his first season without the wizardry of quarterback Manny Wilkins who had been one of the best leaders in college football.

To solve things, Edwards hired Zak Hill from Boise State. Even if Hill’s offense at BSU was only mediocre (46th) against a Mid Major schedule, he is considered an expert when it comes to developing quarterbacks.

Herm Edwards:

Indeed, Herm is a lightning bolt all by himself.  He is a bold leader with great character and his charismatic personality causes most people to like him and hope that he does well.

I have become one of those so I don’t want to cast long shadows.  But if we don’t look into his past to get clues to the Sun Devils’ future, then we’re probably dabbling in an over-smack of irresponsible myopia.

In his first two years as an NFL coach for the New York Jets, Edwards won 59% of his games.   In his first two seasons at ASU, he has won 58%. Overall he was 54-74 before arriving in Tempe.  He’s always started with winning seasons and left with losing ones.

At first, Edwards was heralded as a creative defensive-minded coach in the NFL. However, it seemed that his creativity morphed into confusion and it caused commentators to wonder what scheme he was running while others wondered if he actually had a defensive philosophy at all.

His NFL offenses were worse.  They eroded with time and were often called too timid and his play-calling too conservative.  After leaving the Jets, he took the head coaching job at Kansas City where his offenses started okay but then fell off each season until the Chiefs produced just 127 yards in one game, the worst offensive production in 22 years for KC.  To make matters worse, that game came after his chiefs lost a franchise-record 12 straight games.

Herm Edwards smiles when reminded of those tough years. He’ll tell you that those were decades ago and he’s grown with time.  He also won’t mind pointing to the other side of his NFL career, one in which he played cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles and still holds the second-best record for interceptions in team history.  He played in Super Bowl XV, and in nine seasons with the Eagles, he never missed a single game.

The future:

Although there have been sparks in the desert, the question is if they will fan into flames in 2020 or beyond.

We say— sorta.

Wins will flare in 2020 but they might be more mirage than manifestation.

Here’s what I mean.

Five of ASU’s first six games are at home. Four are against non-bowl opponents.  Three road games (Washington State, Colorado, and Arizona) are winnable because that is the weakest road-game trio in the PAC-12.  November opens against three straight bowl opponents but two of those are at home (Cal and Utah).

I think fans expect Arizona State to win at least four of those first six, all three of the “trio”, and get at least one of the November home opponents.  If so, ASU will be 9-3 and nationally ranked.

But, doesn’t it seem to you that Arizona State should win nine games with a schedule like that?  If so, then nine wins might be thunder-worthy but not all that lightning-worthy.

However, we might find some rumblings in his recruiting.

Every recruiting cycle since Edwards arrived has been better than the one before and if his current class holds, it will be the first time in years that ASU has had a recruiting class finish in the top 25.

Because he was a defensive back in the NFL, Edwards draws defensive players like a magnet, much like Kirk Firentz draws cornerbacks to Iowa.  In the 2020 class, he signed four four-star defenders and that kind of recruiting hasn’t been seen in Tempe for a long time. 

And maybe these recruiting classes are a bit of far-off thunder themselves.  Maybe they will be the ones to finally fan the flames in Tempe and raise the Sun Devils to perennial contenders for the PAC-12 South championship.  

Time will tell.

So will the 2021 schedule.

If you’re looking for more college football features, please visit us here. 

Avatar photo
About Bobby Albrant 150 Articles
Bobby Albrant is a former journalism major at the University of Oregon, creator of for college football predictions and rankings, former analyst for Southern Mississippi football games, and twenty years coaching girls basketball for all ages through CIF high school. He has three grown children with his youngest daughter playing on the Ventura (Ca) High School basketball team that defeated Dom Lugo High School and was the last high school game ever played by Diana Taurasi. He can be reached at